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Hilton Yam
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posted 04-15-2001 16:28     Click Here to See the Profile for Hilton Yam   Click Here to Email Hilton Yam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone have experience with electronic hearing protectors for under helmet wear? Peltor and Pro-Ears both make models. The Pro-Ears doesn't appear to fit under a helmet, and Peltor's site (hard to find) doesn't mention use with helmets at all. I seem to remember someone telling me that the Peltor tacticals would work under a helmet.

Thanks!

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Steve
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posted 04-15-2001 16:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve   Click Here to Email Steve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Walker's Game ear and Tactical ear come to mind. www.walkersgameear.com
HTH

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Arnistador
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posted 04-16-2001 04:42     Click Here to See the Profile for Arnistador   Click Here to Email Arnistador     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If money is not an object, check out Jerry Head's EarForce custom hearing protection. It offers the same type of dynamic sound compression that ProEars give you, but all fit in a custom ear piece molded to fit you. It can also be connected to your radio pack set. One of my shooting instructors swears by them, and I am considering a set for myself. They are around $300 a set.

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DJ
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posted 04-16-2001 18:33     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ   Click Here to Email DJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hilton,
Peltor muffs fit under helmets. We use them here on base and are very very good. Not saying there isn't something better but they are very good value for money and work for us.

Cheers
Jards

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Lightfighter
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posted 04-16-2001 21:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightfighter   Click Here to Email Lightfighter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can attest to the fact that the greatest under helmet hearing protection/enhancement system that I have come across is the SWAT Ear by Earforce. I have sold some of their setups before and have used them myself on live fires.

They mulitply all ambient sound by 6x and then indstantly cut all sound by 24db when a sharp noise is recognized. After the hearing level is safe, they instantly return to their enhanced state, allowing you to a maintain a situationally aware posture.

High Performance Tactical Gear!
www.Lightfighter.com

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Erick
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posted 04-17-2001 02:07     Click Here to See the Profile for Erick   Click Here to Email Erick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Peltor Shotgunners will work under the PAGST (kevlar) lid.

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Hilton Yam
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posted 04-17-2001 22:06     Click Here to See the Profile for Hilton Yam   Click Here to Email Hilton Yam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, is there a site for this Earforce? I always wear plugs and muffs, but I'm interested in seeing these.

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Lightfighter
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posted 04-17-2001 22:31     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightfighter   Click Here to Email Lightfighter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The site for the High Speed SWATear is:
http://www.homestead.com/earpro/index.html

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mdwest
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posted 04-18-2001 08:31     Click Here to See the Profile for mdwest   Click Here to Email mdwest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ive got a set of the SWAT Ears, and they are absolutely an INDESPINSIBLE part of my call out gear. Peltors and other "elec" hearing protection doesnt work with my team's RBR Helmets.. SWAT ear doesnt get in the way at all.. as a matter of fact, you just pull your balaclava over em and go to work... best investment ive made in personal gear in years...

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Hilton Yam
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posted 04-18-2001 20:27     Click Here to See the Profile for Hilton Yam   Click Here to Email Hilton Yam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mdwest:
Hmm, I use an RBR combat helmet. I guess I'm SOL re: the slimline Peltors.

I checked out the SWAT Ears. $650 for the molded earpiece version? What crack are they smoking? I can't afford that for an earpiece. Yikes.

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mdwest
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posted 04-19-2001 00:42     Click Here to See the Profile for mdwest   Click Here to Email mdwest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hilton,
they are definately proud of their product... i didnt have to give nearly that much for mine.. bought em off a guy that had used them for 1 session at the range and then wanted to sell them... paid about 1/2 the retail price (and thought that was expensive).. they have been worth every penny though... spent all day today out shooting my .308... used the SWAT ears.. great to be able to hear every thing on the range, and still have hearing protection in... i cant shoot a long gun with muffs worth a sh*t.. i just cant get a proper cheek weld with em (odd shaped head i guess )... the SWAT ear fixes that problem for me too...

lightfighter carries the SWAT ear... dont know what his price is on em, but i would be willing to bet it would be considerably cheaper than retail...

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EchoFiveMike
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posted 04-19-2001 12:12     Click Here to See the Profile for EchoFiveMike   Click Here to Email EchoFiveMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked out the SWAT Ears. $650 for the molded earpiece version? What crack are they smoking? <<<<

The usual sort of crack, I'd suppose. Of course, the people who actually pay $650 for an earpiece, they probably use the new "Super Crack"(TM). Or they are spending taxpayer money. Semper Fidelis..Ken M

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Lightfighter
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posted 04-19-2001 19:59     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightfighter   Click Here to Email Lightfighter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you wanted a set, I wouldn't charge near that.

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www.Lightfighter.com

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Hilton Yam
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posted 04-20-2001 18:56     Click Here to See the Profile for Hilton Yam   Click Here to Email Hilton Yam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FWIW, my slimline Peltors just fit underneath my RBR helmet. I suppose it'd depend on the size of your head vs. the size of the helmet, as I fit into a M or L helmet, though the L has room for the gas mask or ears. The M probably looks more fashionable, but I'm not there to accessorize.

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mdwest
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posted 04-20-2001 22:27     Click Here to See the Profile for mdwest   Click Here to Email mdwest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
glad it worked for you! ive got a screwed up physique... 6'5"...255lbs... little bitty pin head (wear a 7 1/8 hat)... maybe thats why the peltors wouldnt work for me.. i wear a small RBR

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skdtac
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posted 04-22-2001 10:19     Click Here to See the Profile for skdtac   Click Here to Email skdtac     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi Hilton,
The ProEars Sporting Clays can be utilized very comfortably with large RBRs. The trick is to reverse the cups, and run the headband between the helmet and it's suspension harness. The result is a very comfortable integration, that enhances your audio perception, protects from excessive dbs, and wont go punch through your ear canal when struck. The image shows use with a set of New Eagles and Bolle T-800Rs. Peltors will also work, and they have a system available with an integral mike as well- however, we've found the ProEars to be more comfortable and prefer the sound quality. We are currently involved in helping develop a new hearing protection-coms system.. We should be carrying it by 2002.
Best,
Joe

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STLRN
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posted 04-26-2001 11:18     Click Here to See the Profile for STLRN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a new ear plug available from Aearo Corp called the "Combat Arms" ear plug its NSN is 6515 01 466 2710. Available for unit purchase in boxes of 50 sets at 5 dollar per set. It is double sided one (black in ear) side for range use and one side (yellow in ear) is for "combat." The combat side works like the sonic value type hearing protection, but are comfortable to wear for extended periods. I had a hard time to get he company to give a few samples, but you might be luckier. The company said that they will be sold to the general public as the "indoor/outdoor range ear plug" in the near future.

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